The Office Bar: On the Verge of a Comeback?

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Re: The Office Bar: On the Verge of a Comeback?

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coqui_chris wrote:
Bluespook wrote:i'm not trying to say the policy is right or wrong, just pointing out the why. Personally i don't agree with it. But i also do understand it. People 50 years ago would shrug off most things that didn't go their way or didn't really have much to do with them. Today, they sue the shit out of you for the slightest problem. It would be nice if we could have fully stocked office bars and liquor cabinets. The three martini lunch comming back into fashion. Unfortunately this isn't the case so long as everyone is afraid of lawsuits and bad publicity.
I totally know what you mean by that, its a two-way street with the lawsuits and the contract-writing between management and workers from what I've seen, with the mercenary lawyers hovering in-between.

But I think we are talking about two different things ... The liability of a company who won't let you drink on the job because if you get hurt and turn around to point the finger at you is one thing and totally understandable from the employers' perspectives.

The problem comes from when because health benefits are now an established right and part and parcel to Earned Wages, companies decide that certain out-of-work activities are just too damn expensive for them in regards to health risks and now they're going to refuse to hire you if you smoke or eat unhealthy or drink.

Fuck Bloomberg.
Here the law is very simple: You do something while drunk and you are not covered in any way anymore by any insurance policy, whether it would driving, working, or just crossing the street whatever. Your boss can not be held responsible no matter what (people at Ricard have some sort of an open bar at work and are being given a serious discount on the alcohols issued by their company), which leaves you with the following statement: "when I drink, everything that is going to happen to me, I will have to answer for". There are other policies that I don't like around here, but I find this one sensible.
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Does a home office qualify? I'm retired and my office is well stocked...More booze than work... You got a problem with that?
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I'm bringing up the idea that all fire alarm techs must wear a tie on Monday.

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Fuck Bloomberg.
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Sir, what are you doing with your tie in your mouth?
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coqui_chris wrote:
Bluespook wrote:i'm not trying to say the policy is right or wrong, just pointing out the why. Personally i don't agree with it. But i also do understand it. People 50 years ago would shrug off most things that didn't go their way or didn't really have much to do with them. Today, they sue the shit out of you for the slightest problem. It would be nice if we could have fully stocked office bars and liquor cabinets. The three martini lunch comming back into fashion. Unfortunately this isn't the case so long as everyone is afraid of lawsuits and bad publicity.
I totally know what you mean by that, its a two-way street with the lawsuits and the contract-writing between management and workers from what I've seen, with the mercenary lawyers hovering in-between.

But I think we are talking about two different things ... The liability of a company who won't let you drink on the job because if you get hurt and turn around to point the finger at you is one thing and totally understandable from the employers' perspectives.

The problem comes from when because health benefits are now an established right and part and parcel to Earned Wages, companies decide that certain out-of-work activities are just too damn expensive for them in regards to health risks and now they're going to refuse to hire you if you smoke or eat unhealthy or drink.

Fuck Bloomberg.
Here the law is very simple: You do something while drunk and you are not covered in any way anymore by any insurance policy, whether it would driving, working, or just crossing the street whatever. Your boss can not be held responsible no matter what (people at Ricard have some sort of an open bar at work and are being given a serious discount on the alcohols issued by their company), which leaves you with the following statement: "when I drink, everything that is going to happen to me, I will have to answer for". There are other policies that I don't like around here, but I find this one sensible.
See, that's still not addressing this disturbing trend.

Right now we have the following rules coming into effect: Do you smoke even on your own time? You're fired.

Drinking will be next.
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coqui_chris wrote:See, that's still not addressing this disturbing trend.

Right now we have the following rules coming into effect: Do you smoke even on your own time? You're fired.

Drinking will be next.
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Well, the great thing about posting online, is you can keep on going, until you fall beneath your desk, or until your darling pain-in-the-ass snarls at you and drags you off to bed.


and he is one to talk, but that is another topic of discussion.
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Lush City wrote: Sir, what are you doing with your tie in your mouth?
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Sir, what are you doing with your tie in your mouth?
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Can't you see me standing here I've got my back against the wrecking machine

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Re: The Office Bar: On the Verge of a Comeback?

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Coqui_chris is right. This is quite disturbing. First they came for the stoners, people who smoke on their own time and aren't hurting anyone, at least not as far as the company should be concerned. I get it if you are a cop or something, but some guy working construction who likes to smoke a joint at night after work... bullshit. Then they came for the smokers. The drinkers will probably be next, followed up by people who don't fit into the height/weight guidlines. Perhaps those that don't pass some kind of colesterol test will be after that. Disturbing indeed. The only thing the working man has going for him is that if they do try to do all this shit there will be nobody left to work and he will win by default. Strange and frightening times we live in.
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NYDingbat wrote:
coqui_chris wrote:
Fuck Bloomberg.
Couldn't possibly agree with you more.
Oh gawd, really. Isn't he an assmunch. He ought to get together with our stupid governor.
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