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Got a new poem out in the latest edition of Bottom Shelf Whiskey: https://bottom-shelf-whiskey.com/april-2020/

They reject most of what I send them. They published one of my poems about a year or so ago, and when it came out mine was the lead poem. This time they put me at the bottom. No matter, I'll take it. I'm happy to get into places that reject me most of the time. I've stopped submitting to places that accept everything I send. (I say that now, but I'm sure I'll send them something when I hit my next dry spell.)

Two of the lit journals that I follow on Facebook have said they are getting a lot more submissions than usual ever since this goddamb plague started. One of them gently implied that they are a little frustrated with the poor quality of the coronavirus poems that are jamming them up. I have not written a single poem about this shit. One of my Facebook friends, though, is literally bragging about how many coronavirus poems he's written lately. He doesn't submit anything to journals (he claims he's blacklisted, which is only partially true, but he loves being a martyr), but he uploads his stuff to Medium and then links to his latest plague poem in the Facebook comments section of news sites. Now he's complaining when other Facebook users tell him to stop self-promoting his stuff.

So, knowing that editors are getting slammed with these plague poems, I guess I'll stop submitting for now. I don't want to get lost in the crush. And I imagine the editors all shaking their heads at all these bandwagon hoppers. Even though I'm not writing any plague poems, I don't want my stuff appearing in the editor's submissions and getting myself associated with them. It's a good excuse to just sit here and write new stuff without worrying about sending out submissions.

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Copy and paste one from the black-plague outbreak in europe during the 15th century.

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Hugh wrote:
Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:07 pm
Got a new poem out in the latest edition of Bottom Shelf Whiskey: https://bottom-shelf-whiskey.com/april-2020/

They reject most of what I send them. They published one of my poems about a year or so ago, and when it came out mine was the lead poem. This time they put me at the bottom. No matter, I'll take it. I'm happy to get into places that reject me most of the time. I've stopped submitting to places that accept everything I send. (I say that now, but I'm sure I'll send them something when I hit my next dry spell.)

Two of the lit journals that I follow on Facebook have said they are getting a lot more submissions than usual ever since this goddamb plague started. One of them gently implied that they are a little frustrated with the poor quality of the coronavirus poems that are jamming them up. I have not written a single poem about this shit. One of my Facebook friends, though, is literally bragging about how many coronavirus poems he's written lately. He doesn't submit anything to journals (he claims he's blacklisted, which is only partially true, but he loves being a martyr), but he uploads his stuff to Medium and then links to his latest plague poem in the Facebook comments section of news sites. Now he's complaining when other Facebook users tell him to stop self-promoting his stuff.

So, knowing that editors are getting slammed with these plague poems, I guess I'll stop submitting for now. I don't want to get lost in the crush. And I imagine the editors all shaking their heads at all these bandwagon hoppers. Even though I'm not writing any plague poems, I don't want my stuff appearing in the editor's submissions and getting myself associated with them. It's a good excuse to just sit here and write new stuff without worrying about sending out submissions.

That poem has a sense of connection and truth that gets lost these days. Thank you for linking us to it.

Now for another covid-19 poem.

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Just kidding dude

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The Rye Whiskey Review posted another one of my poems a couple of days ago: https://ryethewhiskeyreview.blogspot.co ... -hugh.html?

I shared it on my Facebook and it got more reactions and comments than any poem I've ever shared.

When the editor notified me that my poem was up, he asked me to send some writing for a new mag he's starting, saying that he digs my writing. He didn't say anything about his new mag other than it's "dark." I sent him four poems. It gave me a lift to hear him say he likes my stuff because when I read his own stuff, he seems kind of prickly.

One of the mags I follow on Facebook posted that they are having a Silver Edition Short Story Contest. I was excited to enter until I read the guidelines - the max word count is 3000 words. I can't even get started with just 3000 words. I recently finished a story that came out to 5100 words, so I went in to edit and cut it down a bit. Now the goddamb thing's up to 5300 words.

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That sounds more like observation than poetry, not that I'm an expert in poetry.

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Sammy wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:26 am
That sounds more like observation than poetry, not that I'm an expert in poetry.
Back in the 1960's a debate went on, mostly through magazines called "the littles," about what poetry was and wasn't. Today, the Wikipedia entry on "poetry" goes on for pages. I remember seeing a definition of poetry many years ago (maybe in a dictionary?) and it gave me a definition that I use today: "written narrative in verse form."

That might be an oversimplification. But using my poem above as an example, if I wanted to write simply my observation of what happened, it would be written in paragraphs offering my impressions and it would have regressions to contrast what else might be the reality if my impressions were wrong. For instance, in an essay I would have written, "a young man who may have been homeless." In my poem I wrote about the bits of leaves and dried grass clinging to the back of his shirt.

Bukowski once said he was rejected by an editor who told him, "This is good, but it's not a poem." Bukowski also said he was happy to have the establishment criticize his poems that way, because he thought their's was a bunch of unreadable gibberish. Some people think that for a poem to be a poem it has to rhyme. Some people even believe that it should be difficult to read, i.e. post-modernism. Neither of those are requirements, although they can be if that's what the reader wants. Some people regard John Ashberry as one of America's greatest poets. I read his collection Which Way Shall I Wonder and I can say without any reservation whatsoever that it was absolute crap. It was literally unreadable. Needless to say, many educated people disagree with that. So I say that if a person scribbles something down and calls it a poem, then that's what it is. He may call it a scroncvallk, or a turd, or a cat. Whatever he wants to call it is what it is. Of course, many may disregard it.

It's also interesting to note that some critic, or some academic, or some writer somewhere classified Bukowski's style of poetry as meat poetry, probably to contrast it with beat poetry which was popular at the time. Bukowski, William Wantling and Steve Richmond were classified as meat poets. Poetry that didn't rhyme or have meter.

When I was a kid, I used to try to copy the rhyming style of Emily Dickinson. It made my poems sound childish. I once wrote a rhyming poem that was supposed to reveal how angry I was about something. I wanted it to sound like words being shot from a cannon. But when I finished it and read it out loud, it sounded like a Dr. Seuss rhyme. I gave up trying to copy Emily Dickinson.

BTW, I've noticed that in the magazine Rattle, one of the leading poetry magazines, there have been more rhyming poems showing up lately. I wonder if that's how poetry is trending now. I sure hope not.

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Editors aren't what they used to be. They used to correct errors. Now they just cut and paste. I was wondering why my last poem wasn't getting a lot of reactions. It turns out I left out a "the" when I submitted it. What really upsets me about it is that I read it over a couple of times before submitting it, and never noticed it until the ezine posted it. https://theabyssmag.blogspot.com/2020/0 ... anton.html

This is the ezine where the editor invited me to submit, telling me how much he liked my stuff. When I found their Facebook page, I noticed they only had 38 likes. So I invited four of my Facebook friends to like it, and three of them did. Later that day, their Facebook page had almost 70 likes. I wonder if the editor will notice that the jump in likes came after he published my poem.

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Thanks for the clarification Huge. As I said, I don't know shit about poetry and a man can't learn if he isn't willing to admit what he doesn't know.

Maybe I should try this type of poetry. I've tried to write poetry before but I've always been saddled with this notion that it has to be in some sort of form, so it always came out as shit. Maybe I will try it again to see how it sounds by doing it like you do.

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My german and english teachers would torture us with gay ass poems. That`s how I learned to hate them, well done teachers
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One of my short stories posted earlier this week at The Abyss: https://theabyssmag.blogspot.com/2020/0 ... anton.html

I had planned to celebrate with a bottle of Knob Creek, but when I read the story after it posted I noticed a grammar error that slipped by me when I proofread it. So no Knob Creek for me today. Bah.

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Hugh wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 4:03 pm
One of my short stories posted earlier this week at The Abyss: https://theabyssmag.blogspot.com/2020/0 ... anton.html

I had planned to celebrate with a bottle of Knob Creek, but when I read the story after it posted I noticed a grammar error that slipped by me when I proofread it. So no Knob Creek for me today. Bah.
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Drop and hold you fucking asshole
Fuck you and your mask mine is better
Because it's real and I will KILL you
So step the fuck off

And I mean it.

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^^^^ Very good anger poem.

I've been telling my friends that I have not written any plague poems during this whole lockdown. But I got a reject yesterday from a place I submitted to about a month or so ago and one of the poems was about lockdown. I had completely forgotten it. I must have written and submitted it while blackout drunk.

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A new poem up at Drunk Monkeys: https://www.drunkmonkeys.us/2017-posts/ ... gh-blanton

When I submitted it to them, they said I would be paid $5 when it published, and that they would Paypal it to me. I messaged them back saying I didn't have Paypal, and asked if they could just deposit it my bank. They didn't answer. A few months later I did set up a Paypal, or it was set up for me somehow when I made a payment to another place, so I messaged Drunk Monkeys and told them that I finally have a Paypal, but still no answer. Anyway, they didn't pay me, but that's all right. It's just a token payment anyway. But it would have been the first time anybody ever paid me cash money for something I've written. (At least I think so. There are hazy memories from my high school days where some band paid me for writing song lyrics for them. Maybe they paid me in weed.)

My poem was the first thing from that issue they posted on their Facebook page and it got more likes than the other poems they posted from other issues. However, when I posted it to my own Facebook page, I only got one like, and that was from a friend who gives me thumbs up on everything I post. Bah.

Gonna drink and write all night tonight. A short story I was on the verge of abandoning is turning out to be okay. It took an unexpected turn that allows me to rage against all you middle class normal people.

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Hugh wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 3:44 pm
A new poem up at Drunk Monkeys: https://www.drunkmonkeys.us/2017-posts/ ... gh-blanton

When I submitted it to them, they said I would be paid $5 when it published, and that they would Paypal it to me. I messaged them back saying I didn't have Paypal, and asked if they could just deposit it my bank. They didn't answer. A few months later I did set up a Paypal, or it was set up for me somehow when I made a payment to another place, so I messaged Drunk Monkeys and told them that I finally have a Paypal, but still no answer. Anyway, they didn't pay me, but that's all right. It's just a token payment anyway. But it would have been the first time anybody ever paid me cash money for something I've written. (At least I think so. There are hazy memories from my high school days where some band paid me for writing song lyrics for them. Maybe they paid me in weed.)

My poem was the first thing from that issue they posted on their Facebook page and it got more likes than the other poems they posted from other issues. However, when I posted it to my own Facebook page, I only got one like, and that was from a friend who gives me thumbs up on everything I post. Bah.

Gonna drink and write all night tonight. A short story I was on the verge of abandoning is turning out to be okay. It took an unexpected turn that allows me to rage against all you middle class normal people.
I've found that friends aren't always the best judges of your work, when you're an artist. They're always biased and will never give you straight commentary.

When I used to post poetry regularly, I only cared about the criticisms. I felt I got better that way.

You're inspiring me. Despite how you tell it, you actually have a pretty thriving writing career; albeit not the most financially successful, but fuck it. That's not what it's about, right?

I've been editing this goddamn short story/novella for weeks now. I'm going to finish it this weekend and send it some place.

The game of "Catch up to Hugh" has begun...
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