The Dive Bar Debate

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Re: The Dive Bar Debate

Post by ScottMcG » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:01 pm

Is it possible to save dive bars when you have assholes like Guy Fieri? Guy Fieri has ruined dive bars by showcasing them on cable. He completely destroyed a dive bar in Superior, WI that I hung out in for years. Now, I can't even get in because of all the strollers blocking the entrance.
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Re: The Dive Bar Debate

Post by Patchez » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:13 pm

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That was hilarious...and pretty spot on. I've watched Jon Taffer many a time. I like in the beginning the guy was wearing the MDM Fez with some Mardi Gras beads. HA!
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Is it possible to save dive bars when you have assholes like Guy Fieri? Guy Fieri has ruined dive bars by showcasing them on cable. He completely destroyed a dive bar in Superior, WI that I hung out in for years. Now, I can't even get in because of all the strollers blocking the entrance.
This is another threat to a good dive bar. Though most of the "dives" G.F. goes to won't pass the "someone got stabbed or shot there at least once" test.
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Re: The Dive Bar Debate

Post by Lush City » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:42 pm

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Check out the latest from the MDM youtube channel on this very topic: Dive Rescue!
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Re: The Dive Bar Debate

Post by Rooster » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:02 pm

Lush City wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:42 pm
oettinger wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:26 am
Check out the latest from the MDM youtube channel on this very topic: Dive Rescue!
LMAO!!!
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Re: The Dive Bar Debate

Post by the_inebriati » Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:02 pm

For me...one of the first things I look for are true alcoholics who are regulars..to see if it qualifies. I don't mean functioning/CEO alcoholics. I mean real, down and dirty, waiting on their next VA/pension/disability check. Alcoholics whose crows feet around their eyes and mouth tell of a live hard lived. They aren't "chic" or ironic slobs in their same t shirt from the 80's every day of the week, but it's just all they can manage to keep somewhat clean enough to wear. While they regale you with tales our how they told the man to stick it/punched out their company commander/told their college professor off or any other number of life derailing self inflicted f-you's to explain why they are sitting next to you on a bars stool at 11 am while you are on vacation and they are on Tuesday.

Two good spots for this in Honolulu: La Mariana "Sailing Club"(although it also satisfies the true Tiki bar category, and as of late with the younger management takeover, it has cleaned up a bit) and Smith's Union Bar (on the infamous Hotel st.)

DISCLAIMER: No place is completely safe from imposters/hipsters doing it to be ironic, so you could find some in both almost any day, unfortunately.

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Re: The Dive Bar Debate

Post by ScottMcG » Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:11 pm

A regular inhabitue at the bar down the street from our house can be frequently seen riding his bicycle, patch over his left eye, navigating the streets to the bar.

Is this bar a dive bar?

They have a popcorn machine. One of the bartenders, Paige, is gotta be the skinniest person I have ever seen. They have the usual beer/booze that the local crowd drinks.

No one has been shot or stabbed since I started going there ten years ago.

Maybe we need another term for a bar that is not so good, that is not hip, but doesn't conjure threat or ... malignancy? Frump? Does that work?

I'm tossing out ideas. Cuz I was almost stabbed in a bar in Superior, WI. I was hauled out of the bar by my roommates while I was swinging.

There are dive bars and there are other bars ...
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Re: The Dive Bar Debate

Post by Resident Asshole » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:05 pm

A good test of a dive bar is whether or not there are people over 50 getting drunk there during the day. Also, Guy Fieri came to a friend's restaurant in town and his place was already busy as hell, I haven't been back since but I wish the best for him. He's an old school PBR drinker and he said Guy was cool. Then again, maybe he just liked being on TV.
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Re: The Dive Bar Debate

Post by oettinger » Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:28 am

Resident Asshole wrote:
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A good test of a dive bar is whether or not there are people over 50 getting drunk there during the day.
Spot on.
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Re: The Dive Bar Debate

Post by oettinger » Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:30 am

Also a good test is, if you are able to tell each old guys life story in sleep. It`s mostly saddening drama, sometime thriller, even rare is action but never comedy. I`ve seen some good big (edit again: big = bouncer big) drinkers shedding tears at five in the morning
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Re: The Dive Bar Debate

Post by Lush City » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:23 am

the_inebriati wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:02 pm
For me...one of the first things I look for are true alcoholics who are regulars..to see if it qualifies. I don't mean functioning/CEO alcoholics. I mean real, down and dirty, waiting on their next VA/pension/disability check. Alcoholics whose crows feet around their eyes and mouth tell of a live hard lived. They aren't "chic" or ironic slobs in their same t shirt from the 80's every day of the week, but it's just all they can manage to keep somewhat clean enough to wear. While they regale you with tales our how they told the man to stick it/punched out their company commander/told their college professor off or any other number of life derailing self inflicted f-you's to explain why they are sitting next to you on a bars stool at 11 am while you are on vacation and they are on Tuesday.

Two good spots for this in Honolulu: La Mariana "Sailing Club"(although it also satisfies the true Tiki bar category, and as of late with the younger management takeover, it has cleaned up a bit) and Smith's Union Bar (on the infamous Hotel st.)

DISCLAIMER: No place is completely safe from imposters/hipsters doing it to be ironic, so you could find some in both almost any day, unfortunately.
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Re: The Dive Bar Debate

Post by Lush City » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:28 am

ScottMcG wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:01 pm
Is it possible to save dive bars when you have assholes like Guy Fieri? Guy Fieri has ruined dive bars by showcasing them on cable. He completely destroyed a dive bar in Superior, WI that I hung out in for years. Now, I can't even get in because of all the strollers blocking the entrance.
Wow! Sorry to hear that. I thought that only happened in New York and L.A.
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Re: The Dive Bar Debate

Post by mistah willies » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:24 am

Lush City wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:28 am
ScottMcG wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:01 pm
Is it possible to save dive bars when you have assholes like Guy Fieri? Guy Fieri has ruined dive bars by showcasing them on cable. He completely destroyed a dive bar in Superior, WI that I hung out in for years. Now, I can't even get in because of all the strollers blocking the entrance.
Wow! Sorry to hear that. I thought that only happened in New York and L.A.
It's like a hang of Hell's Angels, but much more dangerous. If you knocked all of those strollers over, imagine a horde of screaming yoga moms chasing you down the street.

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Re: The Dive Bar Debate

Post by Patchez » Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:04 pm

mistah willies wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:24 am
yoga moms chasing you down the street.
Mmmmmmmmmmm yoga moms.
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Re: The Dive Bar Debate

Post by Lush City » Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:26 am

Patchez wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:04 pm
mistah willies wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:24 am
yoga moms chasing you down the street.
Mmmmmmmmmmm yoga moms.
In yoga pants!
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Re: The Dive Bar Debate

Post by ScottMcG » Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:18 pm

Lush City wrote:
Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:26 am
yoga pants
Count me in. I'm there!
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