Please define "Irish pub"

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Please define "Irish pub"

Post by oettinger » Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:42 pm

In germany, every dive owned by a member of the commonwealth is called "Irish pub" (strange, I know). They most often offer you some scotchs and english ciders.
Is "Irish Pub" a term used to loosely? Does english pub sound better?
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Re: Please define "Irish pub"

Post by hereforthebeer » Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:55 pm

english pub and irish pub are two different things

irish obviously have the heritage for being the world best drinkers which is nice.

irish pubs serve guiness

english pubs are ok too

i've never been to ireland but both my parents have irish genes so i guess this explains my propensity for getting drunk

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Re: Please define "Irish pub"

Post by Frankennietzsche » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:32 pm

I think that the "Irish Pub" has brand recognition and is an easily identified business model.
Most things "Irish", especially in America and especially by ex-patriotted, immigrants and their decendents, are heavily romanticized.
I guess this has done nothing to define it, though.

How about: natural wood and brass hardware everywhere; Irish flags, music, pictures, accoutrement and ephemera; Guinness, hARP and Bass...etcetera. And don't forget the improted nostalgia
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Re: Please define "Irish pub"

Post by Patchez » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:09 am

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Re: Please define "Irish pub"

Post by Frankennietzsche » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:33 pm

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Re: Please define "Irish pub"

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Re: Please define "Irish pub"

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Re: Please define "Irish pub"

Post by Casual Binger » Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:36 pm

By Commonwealth, do you mean the former British Empire? Australia, South Africa, India, Jamaica etc?

I think an English pub is just a pub, as a public house is a British institution and there seems little difference between English, Welsh and Scottish pubs beyond the clientele.

An Irish pub outside of Ireland is mostly just a branding exercise and seems to be an American tradition. In Australia there are countless pubs that boast Irish names, but they only differ from regular pubs by having an Irish stout amongst the taps and a fading Murphy's Law poster behind the bar.

In NZ they make a bit more effort with decor and Irish whiskeys. There's a place in Wellington that even used to have snugs. A Pogues covers band seals the deal.

The strangest Irish bar I ever drank in was in Amsterdam. I can't recall if it had an Irish name, but it was packed with stocky Irish thugs grimly drinkng in near silence. Bad vibes, no craic at all. Me and my mate downed our pints of shitty Amstel and scarpered.

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Re: Please define "Irish pub"

Post by oettinger » Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:07 am

By commonwealth I mean the actual empire. UK, Austria, NZ and the oversees territory.

I bet the bar in Amsterdam was called "The four sailors" or "Roses`"
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Re: Please define "Irish pub"

Post by hereforthebeer » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:42 am

Good 'ole music.

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Re: Please define "Irish pub"

Post by Dr Cyclops » Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:00 pm

oettinger wrote:
Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:07 am
By commonwealth I mean the actual empire. UK, Austria, NZ and the oversees territory.
By Austria, you mean Canada?
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Re: Please define "Irish pub"

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Re: Please define "Irish pub"

Post by oettinger » Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:53 am

Dr Cyclops wrote:
Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:00 pm
oettinger wrote:
Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:07 am
By commonwealth I mean the actual empire. UK, Austria, NZ and the oversees territory.
By Austria, you mean Canada?
Good catch. That was on purple. Switzerland I meant
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Re: Please define "Irish pub"

Post by Resident Asshole » Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:03 am

I travelled most of Ireland's coastland going to pubs, both in small and larger towns. I would say a quintessential Irish pub has old bartenders, very little ice, you can bring your own mixer if you are drinking mixed. If they do have music it is usually live music. If they have TVs they are usually tuned to rugby, an American sport or horse racing. Cider, Budweiser (no Bud Light) and TJD are always present. Doing shots is almost non-existent in the smaller towns. "Trendy" shots such as Jager bombs (though served warm) are common in the bigger cities.

As for the bar itself, usually pretty rustic and woody, yet busy with plenty of pictures, trophies, bar swag and any number of themes depending upon the owner(s). Liquor pours are generally either 2.5 or 3.5 cl, which is either just under or just over an ounce. I am used to a 1.5 ounce pour at my regulars. Most of the beer is actually a bit bland but there are lots of ciders. Bulmer's is the most common (called Magner's here in the US). Guinness of course is everywhere and many pubs have cask ales served at a true cellar temperature.
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Re: Please define "Irish pub"

Post by Casual Binger » Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:03 pm

"you can bring your own mixer if you are drinking mixed."

This is intriguing. The vibe sounds a bit like the Japanese locals' bars where regulars buy a bottle of scochu and leave it at the bar with a label tag attached for later visits. Or is it more like the sort of place where the bartender is too drunk to mix drinks properly (but never too drunk to count change correctly)?

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