any bar you can smoke in

MeanOldLady · Post by **MeanOldLady** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:06 pm

i'm in LA, but there's this completely useless cluster of small suburbs south of los angeles near the water that are collectively referred to as the south bay. this can be confusing because equally useless towns south of sf are called the south bay as well.

Da Raider · Post by **Da Raider** » Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:40 am

Every one of my dives has finally stopped allowing smoking (California). Of course, I'm also a member of a Cigar Bar, so you can get around the law since technically the place is not open to the general public. Full bar plus all the cigars you could ever want. The only other catch is they don't allow traditional cigarette smoking. Needs to be "naturals", whatever that means.

greatzot · Post by **greatzot** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:07 pm

I was in Portland OR for the blues fest at the beginning of July. Wandered into Morton's Steakhouse and found out they had a cigar bar. Sat in there for the better part of 3 hours smoking cigars and drinking bourbon.

Bundy · Post by **Bundy** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 10:11 pm

they've banned smoking in bars here in singapore too, but as most places have outdoor areas, it not so bad.... except, outside, the establishment is only allowed 20% of its outdoor area for smoking. the rest is not.....

So they wind up painting lines on the floor.... outside the line, cannot smoke.... inside? puff away!!! its fun messing with the more anal staff members by stepping in and out of the area.... or standing outside the area with your lit smoke held within the area.....

few weeks ago i was in muddy murphys in singapore, wound up sat in the smoking area, and as the night wore on, more and more people came and joined us, all strangers driven together by nicotine and stupid rules.... the best part was looking inside and seeing all the tables and the bar practially empty, and a handful of lonely non smoker faces peering out at the smokers having a good time...... and of course, they couldnt really come over and sit with us without lighting up.... and the mood i was in i would have physically removed any non smokers from our little 20% of real estate.... "You wanted smoke free? cant have it both ways when it suits you dogfucker."

drunkpete77 · Post by **drunkpete77** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:35 pm

ya know, the part that bothers me, is the fact that it completely changes the atmosphere of certain places. I mean, you should be able to smoke in over populated and heavily polluted cities such as Chicago or Los Angeles. I've heard that it's banned in New York as well. What the hell is this world coming to????

H.P. Loveshaft · Post by **H.P. Loveshaft** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:26 pm

Things aren't looking too good here for smokers in Michigan. I'm going to be pissed if it passes, seeing as how I have five things in life that make me happy: drinking, smoking, reading, writing and occasionally fornicating. I can do 4/5 at the bar, 5/5 on a real good night.

H.P. Loveshaft · Post by **H.P. Loveshaft** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:56 pm

Not really bar related, but smoking related.

I was just standing outside of my store enjoying myself a Basic menthol light and some tool janders up to me from one of the establishments down the way and exclaims "You know, those will kill you." to which I replied without missing a beat "So will informing me about it".

Bluespook · Post by **Bluespook** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:44 am

Illinois just passed a smoking ban. Goes into effect on jan 2. At least they gave us new years eve, how generous. What pisses me off the most is that they are telling me how to run my business and what my customers want. They know better than I what my people want. If there was such a demand for non smoking bars and restuarants, people would open them. It all comes down to control. Today it's smoking and trans fats, tomorow they will be telling you only to serve light salad dressings. Where does it all end?

fizzmaster · Post by **fizzmaster** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:58 am

They banned smoking here in Louisville, July 1st. I don't really mind it, because I was sick of coming home reeking like cigs, but I can see how it pisses people off. I'm of more Libertarian stock when it comes to public policy, so I think it should be the bar-owner's choice. Its THEIR fucking business, after all, not the city's. There are some dives where you can still smoke inside, mainly because the owners are drunks themselves who don't give a fuck. I actually smoked a bunch of butts in a bar a couple weeks ago, because the illegalness of it made it sort of fun.

ThirstyDrunk · Post by **ThirstyDrunk** » Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:43 pm

Something else for the gov't to control...

Slim · Post by **Slim** » Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:54 am

Here in California I believe you can smoke in the bar so long as the place is run solely by the owners of the bar (i.e. no hired help, everyone is a partner in the place) Living in the South Bay however I can tell you some times the people just get their way and do what they want- damn the man.

nelto · Post by **nelto** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:03 am

Over here the main reason they brought in the no-smoking inside at-all was because some stupid bartenders getting lung cancer from second hand smoking were suing the owners.

happydrunk · Post by **happydrunk** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:51 am

nelto wrote:Over here the main reason they brought in the no-smoking inside at-all was because some stupid bartenders getting lung cancer from second hand smoking were suing the owners.

really, how rude. how dare they get upset about getting lung cancer by serving drinks to smokers in an enclosed area. how dare they!?

BeerMakesMeSmart · Post by **BeerMakesMeSmart** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 1:59 pm

happydrunk wrote:
nelto wrote:Over here the main reason they brought in the no-smoking inside at-all was because some stupid bartenders getting lung cancer from second hand smoking were suing the owners.
really, how rude. how dare they get upset about getting lung cancer by serving drinks to smokers in an enclosed area. how dare they!?

Nobody forced them to work in a bar.

Resident Asshole · Post by **Resident Asshole** » Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:04 am

It's called at-will employment. Or non-at-will employment.

Either way, if the employees feel they are in danger they should quit, not go crying to the government. Smoking bans suck.

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