Ethics 101

Agaveman · Post by **Agaveman** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:11 pm

Does swiping stuff like hot sauce and glassware from a bar/resturant that is not your local count as stealing?

bluefox · Post by **bluefox** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:20 pm

I'd say it doesn't matter if you are a good customer and tip well.

Glassware is usually pretty cheap (sometimes free from vendors/distributors.) Hot sauce is the price of doing business (and also really cheap).

If you are a great customer - these slight infractions pale to the value of you bringing business to the bar.

Tom · Post by **Tom** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:23 pm

Yeah, but it's not as bad as if you went into a store or someone's house and walked out with them. Don't ask me why.

Mayhem · Post by **Mayhem** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:37 pm

I have high ethics, and questionable morals, and for me I have often thought of walking out with glassware at the Toad, usually cool stuff, like a Delirium glass with pink elephants, but I never do. For example, I was really wanting this Jameson's rubber bar mat, and I was dropping hints all over the place, and Jules was either ignoring me or couldn't hear me. Her fiance was getting a little aggravated hearing me endlessly whining, so when I was leaving, he took it off the bar, gave it to me, and told me to shut up.

Fighting Frank · Post by **Fighting Frank** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:37 pm

Yo:

Stealing, however, is only a bad thing if one feels guilt as a result or would feel guilty if he fully understood the consequences of the action. If, on the other hand, the stealing is designed to merely "fuck" the victim, then there is nothing wrong with it.

FFZ

Ranger6 · Post by **Ranger6** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:38 pm

Why go out and buy a luxury car when you can sneak into you neighbors garage and steal his?

Just razzing ya.

Red · Post by **Red** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:42 pm

Ask for the item you want, offer to pay for it... if they give you the glass/ashtray/whatever then leave a fat tip. Just nicking it isn't cool.

Leftboston · Post by **Leftboston** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 12:53 pm

Their usually isn't anything at american bars I want to take. When I am in Europe, I take glasware all the time. Bars serve beers in glasse that have their logo on it so the breweries also supply these glasses for a low or no fee to the bars.

Sixpack595 · Post by **Sixpack595** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 1:07 pm

I've knocked around quite a few guys trying to steal glasses from my local. That shit ain't free and every time some jackass tourist walks in they think its OK to walk out with a souvenier. If it was just one or two, OK, but every fucking night? I ask nice, but if they get pushy I get punchy. Steal from TGI Friday or Chi Chis or some shit if it makes you feel cool. Stealing from a family bar is shitty, might just get your ass beat.

Agaveman · Post by **Agaveman** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 1:12 pm

[quote="Sixpack595"] Stealing from a family bar is shitty[quote]

I agree with that.

Mayhem · Post by **Mayhem** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 1:15 pm

Agaveman wrote:
Sixpack595 wrote: Stealing from a family bar is shitty
I agree with that.

I do too.

Leftboston · Post by **Leftboston** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 1:17 pm

Sixpack595 wrote:I've knocked around quite a few guys trying to steal glasses from my local. That shit ain't free and every time some jackass tourist walks in they think its OK to walk out with a souvenier. If it was just one or two, OK, but every fucking night? I ask nice, but if they get pushy I get punchy. Steal from TGI Friday or Chi Chis or some shit if it makes you feel cool. Stealing from a family bar is shitty, might just get your ass beat.

Ya I thought the reason all these US bars stopped putting logos on their glassware was to reduce the theiving. You can get plain bar glasses anywhere for cheap so why steal plain bar glasses. I asked a barmaid in Germany how much a mug was but the price was too high so I said no Thanks and got up to leave. She shoved that fucking glass into my belly like she was handing off a football so the bar owner wouldn't see and told me to take it anyways.

BuriedBlues · Post by **BuriedBlues** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 1:19 pm

i would say no, and i might believe that, but i know that i can't do it. my conscience works overtime. :?

damn you, jiminy cricket.

-Maria

Sixpack595 · Post by **Sixpack595** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 1:24 pm

junkmanaz wrote:
Sixpack595 wrote:I've knocked around quite a few guys trying to steal glasses from my local. That shit ain't free and every time some jackass tourist walks in they think its OK to walk out with a souvenier. If it was just one or two, OK, but every fucking night? I ask nice, but if they get pushy I get punchy. Steal from TGI Friday or Chi Chis or some shit if it makes you feel cool. Stealing from a family bar is shitty, might just get your ass beat.
Ya I thought the reason all these US bars stopped putting logos on their glassware was to reduce the theiving. You can get plain bar glasses anywhere for cheap so why steal plain bar glasses.

Lots of people take from my bar cause its a real institution in the Irish American community here. 36 years with the same owner. People remember going there with their grand parents. Then these suburbonite kids decide to vist once a year and want to take a piece home to say thats where they got it from. Thats why we have plain glass instead of the Jamesons and guinness glasses like 10 years ago.

Palinka (RIP) · Post by **Palinka (RIP)** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 1:26 pm

I have always found that if you ask for a glass, ashtray, bartowel etc (or even offer to buy it) most bars will just let you have it.

The downside is that once you have announced your intentions, if they say "no", they watch you damn close to make sure that you ain't going to walk out with what ever it was that took your fancy after that fiftenth cocktail. Or maybe that's just my experience...

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