Ethics 101

Leftboston · Post by **Leftboston** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 1:29 pm

I bought some of the old Schlitz goblets at yard sales. These are great drinking glasses that they used to have in bars in the 60's and 70's. Also bought 2 nice Budweiser pilsner glasses at a Garage sale for a few bucks.

Dr. Shocker · Post by **Dr. Shocker** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 2:40 pm

I guess it really depends for me I will only do it from large chain/corp places cause I don't give a shit.......mom and pops never (that I cna recall)

it happes though your drunk kool glass and wala its in your hand as your climbing in the car/cab

DrunkAgain · Post by **DrunkAgain** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 2:44 pm

Dr. Shocker wrote:I guess it really depends for me I will only do it from large chain/corp places cause I don't give a shit.......mom and pops never (that I cna recall)

it happes though your drunk kool glass and wala its in your hand as your climbing in the car/cab

What he said. I have no problem with walking with something from a "Corporate" place, local businessmen no way. Cause whats gonna happen is they raise their prices or go out of business.

3DrinksAhead · Post by **3DrinksAhead** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:50 pm

as ive said before, stealing from TGIF, Applebees, etc. aint no crime and will probably bring about your redemption. Stealling from a bar, ANY bar, that is not a chain, well, thats grey area. Glassware? Its prob gonna break and have to be replaced at some point anyway. Same with ashtrays, coasters, etc. But when I stole the autographed picture of Jeanette "black widow" Lee from the wall at my local poolhall, i felt kinda bad. For a minute. Then i realized that i had just used a drill to remove screws from the wall so that i could take the fucking thing, and no one even noticed. Then i felt ok about it. 8)

zak · Post by **zak** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:52 pm

Corprate places often don't have those big people called bouncers or loyal customers. Freshman year of college, I saw a bouncer punch the pocket a kid had put a pint glass in. The glass broke and when the kid tried to start with him. The bouncer shoved him onto a car parked infront of the place before a friend and I pulled the bouncer back. The kid started walking away, when one of our friends got down in a 3 point stance. I wandered over and did the whole "On your marks, get set, go" and he took off after the kids. I went inside to tell some of the other guys, and they jumped in someones Jeep and went after him. By the time they caught up with them, the theif and one of his friends where already on the ground. The rest of his friends soon followed. Moral of the story, don't fuck around in a bar that has a bunch of loyal customers in it.

3DrinksAhead · Post by **3DrinksAhead** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:54 pm

that is a nice avatar you got there.

Tuffy · Post by **Tuffy** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:59 pm

Stealing is always stealing; there is no room for moral relativism.

I, however, have no problem acknowledging my occasional moral lapses: always try to do your stealing from those you don't like or at least from those who won't care all that much.

Or at the very least from those who can afford it most or will notice it the least (often the same thing).

In college, I had full dinner service for eight from Denny's - one piece at a time, including coffee pot, tea kettle, bananna split boats, the works.

Frankennietzsche · Post by **Frankennietzsche** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:03 pm

Tuffy. wrote:
In college, I had full dinner service for eight from Denny's - one piece at a time, including coffee pot, tea kettle, bananna split boats, the works.

That puts my college Denny's silverware set to shame. (**)

(I had to use it.)

Post by **Oggar** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:23 pm

I never feel the need to steal small things. I always steal big, too big.like stuff that won't fit in your house. This is what keeps me from actually stealing mostly I guess I just relocate things. Examples...
1) Tore a "No Parking" sign out of the ground and tossed it into someones backyard.
2)Tried to steal a port-a-potty (one of the big tan ones) for a friends party, ababondon it in some old lady's front yard a block later.
3) Tried to drag one of those concrete benches (4-5ft long, no back, all cement) home once. I left it in the middle of a bank parking lot when I saw a cop car coming over the bridge. My favorite part is when I walked back downtown to get my car the next morning I saw them moving it back with a forklift, it kind of makes you proud.

This habit is also how I aquired a ten foot long pallet which I claimed I was going to use to "fix the chair." I also have hazy memories of tipping over dumpsters for "being in my way."

GSG · Post by **GSG** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:15 am

You're still taking something that doesn't belong to you so yeah, of course it's stealing. I stole an enormous ashtray from a Chicago Rock Cafe once and felt so guilty that I brought it back. Sad no? Having said that, I did once see a guy crash into someone's car in a car park and just drive off. It looked like he'd caused this car some nasty damage but he just fucked off so when he'd parked elsewhere I stole his hubcaps and left a note on the damaged car telling him what I'd and the registration plate number. I didn't feel bad about that but I did feel like a Boondock Saint all day, albeit a wussy, petty, girl one with no guns. I still have the hubcaps, I use them as enormous ashtrays to replace the one from Chicagos.

Sixpack595 · Post by **Sixpack595** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:08 pm

3DrinksAhead wrote:as ive said before, stealing from TGIF, Applebees, etc. aint no crime and will probably bring about your redemption. Stealling from a bar, ANY bar, that is not a chain, well, thats grey area. Glassware? Its prob gonna break and have to be replaced at some point anyway. Same with ashtrays, coasters, etc. But when I stole the autographed picture of Jeanette "black widow" Lee from the wall at my local poolhall, i felt kinda bad. For a minute. Then i realized that i had just used a drill to remove screws from the wall so that i could take the fucking thing, and no one even noticed. Then i felt ok about it. 8)

A kid tried stealing a mirror off the wall of my friends bar. He shoved the kid and the kid fell into my knee goin the opposite direction at a high velocity. Head went one way, teeth went the other. My buddy gave me the mirror and the kids screwdriver. I put it up in my home bar.

zak · Post by **zak** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 3:27 pm

Sixpack595 wrote:A kid tried stealing a mirror off the wall of my friends bar. He shoved the kid and the kid fell into my knee goin the opposite direction at a high velocity. Head went one way, teeth went the other. My buddy gave me the mirror and the kids screwdriver. I put it up in my home bar.

Sounds like an appropriate way to deal with thieves in your bar.

Tuffy · Post by **Tuffy** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 3:33 pm

Yeah, big improtant shit like bar mirrors are no nos.

How little the item will be missed is an important factor here.

And, as pointet out earlier, "Can I have this ashtray?" will almost always net you an ashtray.

Antonio Gramsci · Post by **Antonio Gramsci** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 3:38 pm

The answer to the question is "yes." And it has never stopped me.

mrpeeps · Post by **mrpeeps** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 3:38 pm

I once filled my friends jacket pockets with glasses and ashtrays but that was more to piss him off then to steal them his drunken arse didn't even notice that he was taking half the bar home with him. His jacket was on the back of his chair he wasn't wearing it.

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