No, I'm not a Libertarian. I'm a Republican. I want as little government interference with my life, and my tax dollars. But thanks for thinking I was one of you. Libertarian is just Republican Lite anyway, isn't it? ;)Borracho wrote:Just an anoying tug here... I used to smoke, for about 10 years or so, and am really glad I quit. But, that was my choice and I am violently opposed to anyone telling me I need to quit any of my other socially unacceptable habits, I'm sure posting here is one.
Anyway, what you need to understand about a smoking ban is that it is simply part of government establishing the fact that it knows what is best for you, and that it will use the force of law (legal violence) to force you to agree.
If you don't like this, you need to tell your local politicians, and understand the fact that whether its practical or not, you are a Libertarian. Anyway, I want another beer, and that's still not regulated by my government, so shove off...
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Re: any bar you can smoke in
Its not a dive w/o a blue haze of smoke.MeanOldLady wrote:california and its laws. they make you go home at 2, anybody who wants a smoke has to go outside. i've found several of these, and they're generally divey little shitholes, i mean shithole in the fondest sense possible. found another one of these last night. the barkeep straight up asked me and my chum if we needed an ashtray. by ashtray, he meant a rusty altoids can.
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Invest money in spittoons; they are bound to make a comeback now that snuff and chaw are the legal way to ingest nictotine with ones bar bought booze.
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The smoking "ban" that they passed here is so rediculously full of loopholes nad most of those loopeholes had to do with alcohol. Basically, it just banned smoking in every place but bars.
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Well, Kentucky has always been one of the more sensible states, in that respect.
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I've decided that when I have to go outdoors to smoke a butt, I'll comply to an extent. But what I smoke will NOT be tobacco. If there's 25 people outside the bar puffing away, who's gonna notice that one of the people is smoking a joint?
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All of them!?!Tipsy McStagger wrote:I've decided that when I have to go outdoors to smoke a butt, I'll comply to an extent. But what I smoke will NOT be tobacco. If there's 25 people outside the bar puffing away, who's gonna notice that one of the people is smoking a joint?
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we can still smoke in 18 plus establishments, I almost didn't care about the fern bars and resturants, but when they took smoking away from the wafflehouse I almost cried.
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Every year for the past 4 Nevada, and Las Vegas has been pushing for no smoking in public areas. It's proposterous to say the least. If I'm down $250 on the blackjack table (which happens frequently) and am trying to enjoy my cocktail, the last thing *I* want is to be told I CAN'T smoke.
It's bad enough almost all the poker rooms in Las Vegas are smoke free now. I think there are a select few rooms left where you can smoke, but they are local dirty casinos mostly.
anyway, my two cents
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It's bad enough almost all the poker rooms in Las Vegas are smoke free now. I think there are a select few rooms left where you can smoke, but they are local dirty casinos mostly.
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Now that's just fucking cruel. I don't smoke, but it's just not Waffle House if it doesn't smell like grease and smoke!don't panic wrote:but when they took smoking away from the wafflehouse I almost cried
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once AGAIN we were in the south bay with nick plumber and co. with his friend smoking freely in a bar without reprimand. do they just not give a fuck in those parts? to hell with korea town, i need to get an apt out there.Barca wrote:In California, in the bigger cities (SF, LA, SD....) 85-90% of the bars tend to comply with the smonking ban. As you get further away those numbers drops. I've read that in several cities in the South Bay compliance is as low as 55-60%.MeanOldLady wrote:apparently the south bay is chock-full of bars that laugh in the face of CA's smoke-free laws. i hit 5 bars here in the past two weeks (or maybe it was 6, memories are a tad hazy), and 3 of them allowed smoking. i think i'm going to move here.
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I thought you were in LA and the Bay Area was San Fran... there wasn't a HUGE earthquake I didn't hear about was there?MeanOldLady wrote:once AGAIN we were in the south bay with nick plumber and co. with his friend smoking freely in a bar without reprimand. do they just not give a fuck in those parts? to hell with korea town, i need to get an apt out there.
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